if you add the 2.5 million to the 12.7 million, if you add that all together, you've got 14.9% unemployment rate, so that's more of a realistic look, kyra at the numbers. very important to look at both those. >> and the unemployment hitting -- it says here the minority groups, some minority groups more than others. >> absolutely, and i think that this gets glossed over sometimes. let's look at what we're talking about, because when you have 8.2% overall unemployment, you've got 7.4% unemployment for whites, but you have 14.4% unemployment for african-americans. that number ticked up from 13.6% in may, so that -- that rose. that's concerning, and then 11% unemployment for hispanics, the same percent it was in may. so the concern here is that it's not hitting minority groups evenly, that african-americans and hispanics are struggling more when it comes to finding work in this country, so that's very problematic, and that's something that we often don't talk about, but it's a real, real issue.